Curse

Mr. Undisclosed · May 09, 2008, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Life isn't fair, no need to QQ about it though. The non vets outnumber us therefore they are more important.

RavagerOfDreams · May 09, 2008, 12:46 AM // 00:46

dunno how they punish anyone tbh

i honestly like the double weekends as it brings out more people to places like the double gladiator weekend allowed me to find a good team in less the 30 minutes that was nice...

Quaker · May 09, 2008, 01:24 AM // 01:24

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Originally Posted by The Real Avalon

Is it the constant 'need' to draw more players into the game that gives ANet the right to ignore their veteran players?

With all these silly weekends with double points to titles and the addition of new titles that aren't retro-active at all, ANet seems the favor the new players.

As has been stated, it is basically ANet's business model to keep drawing in new players. Veteran players are basically a drain on resources. If this was a pay-per-month game like WoW, they would have more incentive to cater to veteran players.

Personally, I don't mind the idea of new title tracks, and I don't mind if they're not retro-active. What I do mind is the stupid "kiddie" content they keep coming up with.... but then again, that goes back to catering to the market.

Shakti · May 09, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58

Wow, we're being punished by these additions? Who knew? And here was me, thinking it was just that it was NEW and totally not seeing the plot by Anet to screw their loyal vets....

/facepalm

Ate of DK · May 09, 2008, 03:07 AM // 03:07

I'm a veteran player and I'm still waiting for Anet to fix the survivor title.

Crom The Pale · May 09, 2008, 03:09 AM // 03:09

After 3years of playing GW I've come to recognize that things always change, sometimes for the better sometimes not.

I can recall the complaints when sup runes were 100K for Vigor and Absorbtion.....

I can recall the complaints about the AI buff to mobs to get out of AoE dmg...

Somethings will always piss off people, even when a large number like the change, or vice versa!

pamelf · May 09, 2008, 03:09 AM // 03:09

I've been playing this game for 3 years and I have fun at all those weekend. They don't punish veterans at all, but keep the game interesting for us.

HuntMaster Avatar · May 09, 2008, 03:26 AM // 03:26

If a weekend event was meant to actually punish vets it would be something like this.

Starting Friday, All accounts with more than 1k hours shall be blocked til Sunday 12pm midnight PST.

During this weekend players can enjoy the following.

10 times the chance to get gold max damage r7 drops.
Triple XP awards for elite caps.
Free to enter Fow/UW.
triple bounty on all title points.
New exclusive quests for characters under level 20, Reward included new mini!

Half cost, Half material requirement elite armor.
7 hero option.
Rollerbeetle racing, top 10 players get mini beetle.
New collectors, collecting regular charr carvings trade in for ecto's 1/1 ratio.
80% drop chance of elite skill tomes in normal mode.
quadruple fame rewards in pvp.
10 times normal faction rewards.
10 times balthazar faction rewards.

Until this happens, veterans are not being punished. People just play so much and for so long that they are getting EVERYTHING which limits the benefits of events.

Solution> Stop playing so much!

You wanna rush through and get everything and appear godly? Then dont bitch when you have everything and theres nothing left for you to gain.

GloryFox · May 09, 2008, 03:28 AM // 03:28

Sorry but the people who are getting punished are the people with more than one character. The more characters you have the more Grind you must attain. This is counter intuitive because as a busniess you want to sell more character slots. More slots means more money for ANET, yet ANET punishes those such as myself who have 10 characters one of each class and hours upon hours of playtime. Titles and tying titles to PvE skills has only forced me to concentrate on one character, issue is I've invested in 10.

HuntMaster Avatar · May 09, 2008, 03:32 AM // 03:32

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

Sorry but the people who are getting punished are the people with more than one character. The more characters you have the more Grind you must attain. This is counter intuitive because as a busniess you want to sell more character slots. More slots means more money for ANET, yet ANET punishes those such as myself who have 10 characters one of each class and hours upon hours of playtime. Titles and tying titles to PvE skills has only forced me to concentrate on one character, issue is I've invested in 10.

Which was you're choice. I play 1 character only. I don't need 20 characters to enjoy the game. So my one character can gain more benefits easier than your 20 characters due to time needed.

Bront · May 09, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36

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Originally Posted by The Real Avalon

the addition of new titles that aren't retro-active

This is a simple data collection issue. If they weren't tracking it before, it's nearly impossable to go back and find without a lot of excess work.

So very few titles additions will ever be retroactive.

Sorn Xarann · May 09, 2008, 03:38 AM // 03:38

I'm sick of the complaining on the guru community. Really I am, when i started playing Guild Wars Oct. 31 2005 I was a noob, everyone is on their first day, everything was new and interesting, and challenging don't forget challenging. This was my first and only strong lived MMO. It has kept me interested in the past 2.5 years and it still interests me. You bum-rushed everything you could do in pve? Ok, your bored, blah blah blah, i've done this, done that. Make the game fun for yourself and shut the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up. Don't wanna grind pve? Grind sucks, I understand, play pvp for a month, do something else. Make friends laugh long and hard into the night on vent. w/e the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you want to do, do it. Stop bitchin about this and that and have a good time, this is a game. Why do people play games?

MoldyRiceFrenzy · May 09, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01

part of popularism, more noobs, less veterens.

Thizzle · May 09, 2008, 05:09 AM // 05:09

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Originally Posted by Big_Daddy

I have never given a flying fig about Titles.... am I the only one that does not care about them? What the hell is wrong with me?

I'm with your brother. I see no point in silly things like KoABD or an emote because you spent 100,000,000 balthazar faction.

Cacheelma · May 09, 2008, 05:25 AM // 05:25

It's Anet's business model, really.

If the game were pay to play, Anet would NEED to make sure that their current playerbase is happy, all the while find a way to attract more new players WITHOUT upsetting old players. That's how things are in WoW, Anarchy Online, Lineage 2, City of Heroes, etc.

Now for GW, Anet don't really need to care about those who've bought the game all that much (and evidently, they don't). Driving away old players = less server load. Attract new players = more money.

And that's why I'm glad to pay more for something better even if it has a monthly fee; I can be sure that they care about me while I'm playing, and not only BEFORE I pay.

HuntMaster Avatar · May 09, 2008, 05:50 AM // 05:50

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

It's Anet's business model, really.

If the game were pay to play, Anet would NEED to make sure that their current playerbase is happy, all the while find a way to attract more new players WITHOUT upsetting old players. That's how things are in WoW, Anarchy Online, Lineage 2, City of Heroes, etc.

Now for GW, Anet don't really need to care about those who've bought the game all that much (and evidently, they don't). Driving away old players = less server load. Attract new players = more money.

And that's why I'm glad to pay more for another game. A better game.

Using this logic why don't fans of gw1 realize this could happen in gw2 and refuse to buy it, if a company screws you once, they probably will again, and so far gw1 has screwed players quite a few times. Yet players seem to think anet won't do this with gw2. Amazing how peoples minds work.

yum · May 09, 2008, 05:56 AM // 05:56

Why do businesses want to make money?....

Hermos · May 09, 2008, 06:11 AM // 06:11

I didn't even bother reading the OP. Change is a necessity in life. Deal with it. Events change, you (not intended towards the OP, but as a general yet informal pronoun) can't live inside a bubble whilst playing GW, some elements of the real world tend to pop up. :P

For example, economic issues. ANET wouldn't have sit by seeing countless W/Mo's enter the crystal desert slaying over 20 griffons in one go, only to get max damage q9 Fiery Dragon Swords to sell for 100k+eee. They didn't sit by when 55 monks were entering the UW, and you could see about 30 or so entering at one time in ToA ID1, where they'd slaughter every available mob that could and would drop an ectoplasm.

The same goes for the community as a whole. We won't sit by and watch our runs get nerfed. We'll accept it, but we'll make new builds. That's the entire point of GW... the dynamic playstyle that it has. And truly, that's what makes it great.

For others who didn't understand, Change ftw!

Avarre · May 09, 2008, 06:27 AM // 06:27

The importance of being good at Guild Wars has been massively decreased, and if you can't see that you're probably one of the ones benefiting. Guild Wars was an experiment and an accidental success if anything - and I sometimes doubt ANet has a very solid vision of where they want to take the game.

Where they are taking it, is to serve the lowest common denominator rather than to emphasize the niche uniqueness of some of their original ideas.

Fril Estelin · May 09, 2008, 06:37 AM // 06:37

IMHO the fact that the thread titles mentions "noobs" and not "newbs" indicates that either the OP is making a stupid amalgam between the two, or that he's not a veteran of net-speak but a net-noob himself.

Furthermore, why do you feel that "you" need Anet's favor? You had a f2p MMO with a lot of fun, and you want more more more?